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So What have I been up to - Catch up

Discussion in 'Forum Support' started by Randydrew6, Apr 6, 2022.

  1. Randydrew6

    Randydrew6 Administrator
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    So as some of you have found out I was sued by Swagbucks last year, I don't really care too much tbh it is what it is. Now with that out of the way what have I been up to.

    Since Cloud started banning I was in the red on PayPal many of you know this, I have had a lot of disputes against me since this happened. I needed to pay bills so I had to get another job until my PayPal is out of the red, I started working for another company doing side coding work slowly paying off PayPal while also paying my bills. As it stands PayPal is still -$550. I have also had my server hacked by someone while I was working on changes, they managed to use my email on my server to spam users.. This on top of the problems with disputes caused me to sort of abandon Rogue Labs for now. I will get back to it very soon. I have been running Rogue Cloud myself testing things and haven't had an account banned since november of last year so Cloud IS working however like I mentioned before it would be impossible for me to actually sell cloud right now due to the money in my PayPal being in the negative. Most of the money a user sends to Cloud is used pay for their setup cost so given the money wouldn't actually be there as it would still be in the negative I am just unfortunately unable to offer cloud until PayPal is cleared up.

    I know many of you may be disappointed and I have been sure to keep the Crypto trader up and running so something is still earning you money while I am gone. I hope I can change servers soon and get back to work as usual once PayPal is out of the negative, hopefully no more disputes hit my account. In just dispute fees I have paid almost $1,000 so it sure is taking it's time.. Anyway I am truly sorry all this happened and I really do want to sell Cloud again. I won't be selling SuperSwag as of the letter they sent me but I will be selling Cloud again soon with some modifications, just stay tuned. I am hoping to have PayPal out of the negative within a couple of months and i'll try to change servers next month so the hacked email problem should be solved.

    I am sorry for being MIA but all this has really put me at the edge of my ropes and all I really want to do is offer a way for people in 3rd world countries to make enough money to survive. Nothing else matters to me. I will be back and I will help people again once this all is fixed.
     
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  2. UB3R

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    Glad to read this post but let me suggest once again. Stop using PayPal and move to cryptocurrencies only. You might use a 3rd party service to automatically process payment or you would be able to process them by yourself using your own server.
     
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  3. Randydrew6

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    Might have to bite the bullet and see if it's possible.. Might just have to for Cloud instances at least the problem is not all the suppliers I use took crypto but I believe most of them do now
     
  4. UB3R

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    I wouldn't think about your suppliers as you'll be free to withdraw/convert your crypto for FIAT (credit card balance or PayPal funds) so accepting crypto from your customers doesn't mean that you will also have to use crypto to pay your suppliers
     
  5. Pedro

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    I'm glad you're back but you should have reported this situation before to avoid a bad reputation on the network, several of us were used to you disappearing but this time was excessive. I hope that the cloud works well for you now, but I recommend having a Manual option as well, since everything is in the cloud, a wave of bans only affects you and that may not be optimal for you.
    I join what is mentioned above is that you leave Paypal, look for another option or these problems will be recurrent in each wave of bans.
     
  6. Cloudyday80

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    yeah i would just say the hell with paypal...i figured that you had probably been banned from even touching this site again lol
     
  7. mdjaforullah

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    finally at least he is backkkkkkkkkkkkkk ,,we're angry but good to see you're ok though
     
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  8. Randydrew6

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    Alright, this weekend i'll make the changes to Cloud software needed and do some testing. After these changes go live i'll see who wants to buy Cloud again using crypto as a payment now that I have been using this method for a few months to make money it should be safe to sell.
     
  9. Randydrew6

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    For legal reasons I can't
     
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  10. kmonmoy

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    Welcome back mate.
     
  11. TheOne123

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    hey can you give us a specific estimate on when everything will be back to semi-normal? @Randydrew6
     
  12. George Lopez

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    so is desktop version dead?
     
  13. Randydrew6

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    I should have my PayPal back out of the negative by the end of July and then things should be somewhat normal again even though I will need to find a way to stop this from happening in the future. I can't go through this again with so many disputes.
     
  14. Randydrew6

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    Yes unfortunately however I'll make cloud as cheap as I can so people will still be able to use it once my PayPal is out of the red
     
  15. George Lopez

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    randy i like help u get out red can u do customize bot
     
  16. UB3R

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    Still no news about using crypto currencies?

    EDIT: Or PerfectMoney, as it cannot be reversed
     
  17. Zen

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    The way to avoid putting your paypal in the red is unfortunately to carry some balance on it.

    That's ill-advised imo because if they freeze your account they also seize your money. If I were you I'd keep an account exclusively as backup funds. On top of all this that money just sits there doing nothing and you're much more efficient putting it into at least a savings account that yields some interest, especially with the federal reserve raising interest rates aggressively at this moment you'll get a sweet interest rate. If people start doing chargebacks you have some of that cash to shield you from going into the red again at least until the cases resolve.

    Second, Paypal has a function called friends and family payments, it's viewed as a gift and not reversible. I know some are reluctant, but the reason why this function exists is that people kept reversing payments leaving paypal having to foot the bills. This does not have a subscription option so I would probably do bundled months and the onus is on the end-user to re-up.

    Third, with crypto, I'd be hard-pressed personally, because you'll still lose principal when you take into account declining prices, network fees, etc and it's always a risk if you're looking to time a better price. There's less straightforwardness with it in my opinion especially since you have to declare taxes since it's pseudo-anonymous. Let's just say the "stablecoins" aren't as fundamentally stable as people think and they're all very directly connected with one another and have contagion risk. But that's up to you, if reversed payments are that much of an anchor point, I personally think there are more creative avenues that don't carry the kind of complications crypto can present.
     
  18. Zen

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    Also, not advising you financially or business-wise, but... a lot of the legal croo-... i mean companies...

    Setup LLC's. Most are just subsidiaries under consultancies. Ergo if a company ever tried to go after them personally or professionally, both just declare bankruptcy and do a bankruptcy sale to a new LLC without affect the parent company. Probably consult a lawyer upon this... because its a complicated structure and they may know some multi-jurisdictional laws that prevent other states from infringing on your rights.

    Let's just say the South Dakota Trust has gotten many rich men legally out of having to pay half their wealth to their wives when filing for divorce.
     

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