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Discussion in 'Forum Support' started by Randydrew6, Aug 8, 2017.

  1. Randydrew6

    Randydrew6 Administrator Staff Member Admin VIP Senior Mod Moderator Founding Supporter Organ Donor Donator

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    I am at an all time low in terms of funding from subscriptions. I have never had so many people leave before, can someone give me input as to what needs to be done to keep people on the site? I know Gifthulk is making me $1 a day, neobux is making me around $1.20 a day, Swagbucks is making me between 20-80 cents a day. Earnhoney is making around $5 a month. The other bots make a little but it's around a few dollars a month.

    I am seeing a profit of over $10 easily but yet people are leaving. I released recaptcha support for Rogue Studio hoping that would boost usage but still nothing. I made captchas 3 times cheaper, I am getting new people very rarely but keep getting people canceling. Am I charging too much for sub? is the 1 year plan too expensive? Please I need input because if this keeps happening I won't be able to afford to keep this website alive. I am barely making enough money to pay rent.
     
  2. neokyle

    neokyle New Member Organ Donor Donator

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    I think a how to guide to hand hold and on board new users.
    Right now all this stuff is possible, but you have to figure it out, also tbh I wasted alot of time with GiftHulk Banned Accounts. I think I made like 30 GiftHulk accounts, but only ~4 or 5 were able to redeem. Other's had earned like $20-50 and security inquiry/never sent rewards.

    I think the problem is on boarding. I'm smart and persistent, but even for me this is pretty confusing and I sometimes feel like I'm figuring it out myself.

    So If I were you I'd put 2 pages on the site.
    1st.) What the product can do for you (with real numbers/Testimonials.)
    2nd.) Guyde of how to get the product to do it.
     
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  3. Randydrew6

    Randydrew6 Administrator Staff Member Admin VIP Senior Mod Moderator Founding Supporter Organ Donor Donator

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    I did have a payment proof section before but maybe I will readd it, I didn't add it this time because it was never used. Maybe if I offer a reason to post there?

    I am going to offer my proof that gifthulk pays but I would guess most new users wouldn't accept just my testimony. As for gifthulk accounts, I have heard other users say the same thing, I was hoping most of the users that joined the site would use an account they have been using for years but it looks like most users coming to my website don't have an older account.

    As for what a product can do, I list what it's features are or do you mean something different?

    Thank you for your information I will use it.
     
  4. neokyle

    neokyle New Member Organ Donor Donator

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    PS Your Price is fine.

    Lets say I'm a new user.)
    I'd like to go to a page that says What RL is/how much I can earn/something that excites me/gets me interested. I'd like this 1st page to give me a reality check too, don't just say you can make $10/day automated income. Say you can make $x/day if you join us today. And if you follow all of our on boarding guide you can graduate to $y/day. User Testimonials too. (Make it a weekend warrior hobby)

    You should say just by making an account this weekend you'll gain access to bingger, follow this level 1 guide and you'll make $0.50/day. (Point out that $0.50 * 30 = $15, and that the free offer will pay for the subscription, but the subscription allows the customer to earn even more.)

    If you follow Guide #2 next Saturday, you'll graduate to $1/day.
    Tell them about teamviewer if they have relatives. I run RL on 5 IPs.
    Point out to them they if they want to go bigtime, they can't run certain bots on the same computer simultaneously. I went and spent like $300 for a 16GB Laptop that I use as a HyperV server that can do ~7 bots.Running that laptop costs $24/year in electricity to run. So it's profitable.

    Try a Plan of action for like 8 weekends. And Maybe Badge System. (that they give themselves/or have users report their own passive income in their profiles/on their picture icons.)
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    Side Note: I think the drop in users coincides with the Captchas, we weren't exactly making hand over fist, and now the Captchas eat away at a bit of profit.

    Also Swag used to earn 60-80 cent a day for me like 1.5 year ago. I haven't been able to get it to work for the longest time. I was running it for like 4 months and it'd earn $0.05 per day, was just glitched up. Not sure what I was doing wrong.
     
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  5. Randydrew6

    Randydrew6 Administrator Staff Member Admin VIP Senior Mod Moderator Founding Supporter Organ Donor Donator

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    Swagbucks wasn't working good for awhile but it does seem to be better now, they are finally getting ads. As for captcha's I am now offering 3 times as many as before, 9,000 captchas for $3.50 is easily profitable. I eat up a bit of the cost but it should be more than enough for the user. Even just the 450 a month you get every month is quite a bit but I will come up with more ways to keep captcha cost lower!

    Perhaps make a landing page with a video to explain what my website is about? Have testimonials under it?
     
  6. neokyle

    neokyle New Member Organ Donor Donator

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    Side note: I've had a theory that maybe if I were to do the GH bot 2 days a week until it earned $5 and let the first redemption go through. It might work. Every GH account I made I noticed that if 1 reward successfully went through, then I could expect that account to be good forever/all future things to go through.

    Another thing I learned was $25 walmarts were never delivered on accounts that were able to successfully redeem like 5% of the time. And the giftcards would take ~30-40 days to be delivered to the account. Yet amazon giftcards were delivered quickly. That's necessary info for a noob user. Because otherwise they'll feel GH is scaming them/GH doesn't work, and if they feel GH doesn't work, then your bots useless.

    GH has been the most consistent earner for me over the years until that captcha glitch killed it.
     
  7. neokyle

    neokyle New Member Organ Donor Donator

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    If I were you I would make tiny bit of money on Captcha Credits not eat the costs.

    But you could offer users Captcha Credit Bounties. Like If they earn the badge from 1st and 2nd week, and post how much they're making in their sig image. Or they write a user testimonial. (This adds value to your site) (Then you could thank the user for the value added with some Captcha credits that you eat the cost of, because they helped you out.)
     
  8. neokyle

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    Also a great way for you to get an influx of new users (but it'd be a one off) is Tech Slugs youtube. You could potentially start a youtube channel monitize that, and redirect them to the bot.
    I'd get an acceptable user on boarding system working first, before you aim for an influx of new users, that way you can keep them.

    TechSlugs is a youtube channel about perk phones. And CheckPoints Phone App. (Side note I wrote a bot for CheckPoints and PerkTV using frep and macrodroid.)
    and TBH my phones way outperform desktop bot income.

    But see there's a market of people who are already into giftcard farming via perk tv phones. Those people are already investing money into more phones to expand their farm. So they would be willing to invest $300 in a hyperV laptop server, and expand into desktop botting to expand their automated income.

    So beermoney reddit (which is perkTV), you could get people to your site from that.
    And Youtube tech slugs customers. maybe you should try to get into contact with that youtube channel.
     
  9. neokyle

    neokyle New Member Organ Donor Donator

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    I think this would be a good idea:
    Make a youtube channel/Video Series about how to monetize RougeLabs. It'll attract new customers. Serve as how to guides that customers can follow to help them get onboarded. And it could eventually become it's own income source.

    The tech slugs people were talking about how to make money with perk phone farm and stuff. But then their youtube channel generated ad revenue. If you did that with RougeLabs you'd get a tripple wammy. (attract new customers, potentially monitize with ad revenue, and how to guides for existing customers.)
     
  10. neokyle

    neokyle New Member Organ Donor Donator

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    Wish you the best of luck, in the worst case scenario I think you could always get hired as a programmer at an official job, and do RL on the weekends.

    BTW: I think the swagbucks not earning, and gifthulk accounts getting banned, is what drove people to not renew their subscription. But with handholding and how to guides. You might be able to bring them back.

    Also I have a theory as to why my own swagbucks wasn't earning. I did powershell to auto reboot twice daily. I also have woundered if I'd earn more consistently if I used my powershell task scheduler automation setup to only run the swags 3-4 days a week, vs 7 days a week. I never monitored the bots tbh, but I always had a suspicion that they were like soft banned from getting earning opportunities. Because somedays they'd earne $0.60, but most days they'd earn $0.04
     
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  11. paying_off_ the_debt

    paying_off_ the_debt New Member Founding Supporter

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    I think the price is fine. What I think is lacking is support for when things are not working. Sometimes nobody hears from you for days when there is a glitch and then we are not making money during that time. Earnhoney bot has had issues since the 8/1 update and people probably don't think they are being taken seriously since it works for you.
     
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  12. Foldog22

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    Randy, I think you need to employ some other folks. Perhaps you can pay them in free subs or profit sharing. I would hire at least one other developer and at least one moderator. We all understand life happens but when you run a business, you can't just let your business go while you deal with life. That is where additional help is needed.
     
  13. Cloudyday80

    Cloudyday80 New Member VIP Supporter Founding Supporter

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    I will stay a member either way. Like I've said before, I think phone apps would help. I know for a while debucked was making more than the swagbot was. Maybe make a video showing how to use each bot, with showing how you set up account, set up bot, tips to make run better etc. Plus I also agree about people saying they need help because they don't feel like they are being taken seriously. You can have a room full of computers all the same with exact same setup and each computer will something on it that will be exclusive to it, be it driver issuses, malware etc. Plus it seems like moderators are never around anymore. I also still think there should be more vip exclusives. Yes we have rogue studio now, but hyper is basically dead now and the money to get to vip anyway may not seem worth it to some. Despite having the studio thing, I'd rather just have scripts for it you could download than have to try to make my own. The two scripts on here I have found don't work for me. I don't know why and seeing as I work a lot anyway I don't really have time to sit and try to debug them to figure out what is going on. Bot wise everything is working fine except earnhoney and swagbot. Earnhoney worked until the last update. Swag hasn't worked in at least 6 weeks. There are so many things that can go wrong on a computer. Just because the bot is working for you doesn't necessarily mean it will be for the end user. It just seems like we pay to gain access and then are left to figure it out for ourselves.
     
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    Taking accounts to platinum before trying to redeem is how most ppl get around banned accounts. Also your best off going with the the most popular items on sites like AGC or paypal. I had the same issue with a gamestop card on GH. They never delivered it and when I contacted them they said it was out of stock so I had them cancel it and give me an AGC instead.
     
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    neokyle New Member Organ Donor Donator

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    I tried going to platinum before first redemption, mixed results. It's worked with some and failed with others.
    It'd be good if Randy mentioned the tip to try redeeming for amazon/paypal in the GiftHulk Bot, about the bot section.
     
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  16. EL_Guy

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    I agreed with most of the folks here. We need a guild that tell us. How many bots we can run. On a VM with 2 core 8G . what OS will the bot run best. Most import resolution. How many account of the same website can we run with the same IP or house whole at the same time. Maybe a little schedule to run bot A and B at 3 am and then C and D 5 hours later. Another thing i have seen that the people here dont really help each other. People share your success story. I been a member for about year. and most of the time i didn't even use the bot. Now i really want to get in to it. I seen if you run the mobile app you can easily make 60 points a day. you can add that .

    over all Randy you are doing a great job.
     
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  17. EL_Guy

    EL_Guy Member VIP Supporter

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    My wife and I both doing survey on each of our account. Was able to make 100 each a month. Our gold was to get 335 points a day. so if you finish all 6 or 7 mobile app you will make 60 points.
     
  18. EL_Guy

    EL_Guy Member VIP Supporter

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    another thing i dont think the VIP works with SB or with GH. it always saying check later
     
  19. Gloria

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    Some points should be in RL
    1- payment proof section( updated daily)
    2- how to do tutorial (video tutorial)
    Al's if its possible then provide team viewer support to new user
    3- you added a captcha service but you should also add a proxy service. Most of people want to use it but they don't have proxy to start with
    4- payment option- there is only PayPal you should have to add more like BTC because now pp is very strict abut recurring purchase
    4- Less advertisements- you should goto forum and create an official thread about it( I will prefer to goto BHW)
     
  20. Yes

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    Make the shoutbox for Supporters and VIPs only
     
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