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Need help - Server Payment DUE soon - Not Enough Members

Discussion in 'Forum Support' started by Randydrew6, Apr 4, 2021.

  1. Randydrew6

    Randydrew6 Administrator
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    Rogue Labs server payment is coming up in May for $700 and I do not have the money, I was assuming proxy sales would pick up and membership might pick up since the bot is cashing out on all my accounts but I am not seeing that happen fast enough and it seems many people are not using proxies anymore like they used to.

    Can you tell me why no one is buying proxies anymore and what I can do to get more people on the website and buying proxies for swag. I took out a loan already so I do not have another option to keep the site up if I am unable to renew it, I might have some people lending me some money but it isn't certain. If anyone can please tell me what I need to do to get more customers or get you guys to decide to ramp up your proxies please tell me.
     
  2. George Lopez

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    i dont about everyone else proxy cost not breaking even with running the bot
    if paying 11.50 wsnt earning 11.50
    if i could cover cost and still bank at least 5-10 dollar i would never stop my sub
     
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  3. Cloudyday80

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    in my case i don't actually need it since home ip works just fine...the few times i have tried to use a proxy be it from here or other places whenever i would try to make an account it would ban me as soon as i tried to create a swag account...i tried making the email account for the new account i was trying to create with the proxy and off of the proxy and it never seemed to matter which i tried to do
     
  4. Pedro

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    For my lack of clarity on how to occupy the bots, new users are always asking repeated questions, a post could be made with the configuration information and in addition to common questions and answers.
    On the proxy, the price is not very striking and it is understood because they must be quite good to work, you could look for another provider to lower the price a bit.
    I say that the strong should be the vip subscription, but there is a lack of bots for people to want to join, you could add a couple more bots and raise the price of the membership.
    Sorry for my bad English, Greetings!
     
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  5. kmonmoy

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    You need to reduce the proxy price if possible. As I see, each SB account earns on average 25$ per month. If we add Proxy + VPS + VIP costs, there is not much left. I reduced the cost by reducing my vps cost and getting the proxies from third party. Which means you are not earning enough from me and others like me. Even with all the price cut, I need to run at least 10 bots in order to get some decent profit. The new members usually starts with 1 or 2 bot, or mostly 5 bot. So, 5 proxy 50$ + 5 VPS 40$ (8$ each) + VIP 12$ + PV Credit 22$ = 124$. If 5 accounts earns 25$ each then it's only 125$ / month and there will be only 1$ profit. The second month will be 23$ profit since no more PV credits will be needed. But it's still too low profit.

    For me, I make 5$ VPS and get my proxies from other places for half of your price. So, I get around 75$ profit per 5 accounts. I also I use a old laptop to run 4 bots as well to reduce cost. So, in all, I get a decent profit, which is not true for most.

    So, the way you can get some money is by selling VPS + Proxies at a reduced cost. Or you can make a web interface for the bot and let users run their bot in a server that you own with a competitive price. These are just some ideas.
     
  6. Randydrew6

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    Hmm.. Good idea but that doesnt take into account the "other bot" profit too but I will see if I can drop prices. Right now I am selling them at cost plus $2 but I know some proxies that work with swag but not bing that are cheaper, do you think people would be willing to do 20% off proxy if bought for 1 year? Also VIP membership cost can be ruled out if they buy lifetime but yeah.. I can see what I can do for proxy price. What do you think is a price I should shop around for?
     
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  7. Randydrew6

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    So you think maybe some people are afraid of getting banned with proxies? What if I offered a money back policy on proxies I sold? If you cant cashout then I'll refund you
     
  8. Cloudyday80

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    that would make people more likely to try it..i just never was able to figure out how to make the emails for the proxies that wouldn't ban the accounts being made for it to be used...
    I haven't ever had luck with the other bot so i don't really mess with it much
     
  9. kmonmoy

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    Rogue VIP was more profitable when you had more bots. Right now we only have 3 bots. SB works great for me, CEX is a no go. I can't fund it from Canada. Seems there are some restrictions in my bank. Also, only those who can invest big can get any good profit from CEX. As for the bot that cannot be named, it is good, but not that much profitable. Usually the accounts get banned after 1 or two redeem. Also, not many good GC to redeem there. Still, I was getting enough to pay for all my proxies from that hidden bot.

    Bottom line is, you need to make it profitable for others. To be honest, for me, I spend VPS + Proxies <=10$. And I get at least 25$ GC from each. I managed it by finding cheap dedicated servers and cheap proxies. There are some problems though. Not all proxies survives and I can only request a change once a month. Also, these proxies don't earn much from NCrave. The best earner is the Coupon. But, I still get enough profit by reducing investment.

    As for the 1 Year proxy package, it can be a good option. But SB loves to go on a banning spree once or twice every year. They don't need any reason to do that. When that happens, a lot of the users will ask for a replacement. Can you handle that?

    That is why, I told you to sell VPS+proxies as a package. Also, if you can make a web interface and run the bots in your server, it may bring you some good income. Those who don't want to bother setting up vps or proxies, they can just create account, and add the info in the web interface and be done with that. 5-6 years ago there was one person selling a similar kind of web SB bot. It earned good, but later he started to get too many bans. Also, you can think of making a bot for android. I still remember old debucked (may be wrong with the name). It was a good bot for SB.

    You always say, your bots are not to make people rich, but to earn some pocket money. But those who comes here mostly want to be rich in the easiest way possible. In short, give your users more way to earn. And I am sure that will bring more subscribers with them.
     
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  10. Randydrew6

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    I think having a an option where users can pay a monthly sub and I handle everything for them on my end and all they need to do is pay and they get the rewards is a GREAT idea. I will definitely do that, it wouldnt be a web interface but im thinking maybe make a small program they can run and it has a dropdown for Swag rewards and other rewards as well as how much money you've made on each so far. Someone wouldn't even need to know how to do the setups or pay for the server or anything, I can handle it all for them.. they wouldnt even necessarily need to know swag or bing. Just pay a monthly payment and get your rewards stacking up. BRILIANT! I am thinking a user would need VIP to buy this plan and I can call it something like "Rogue Cloud Investment" charge $13.99 a month. Think that would sell well?
     
  11. kmonmoy

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    LOL.... at least I will eat up that offer for good :) . Far better than making new account and getting banned regularly. Or maintaining the server and such. Will also give me more options to expand my bot farm. I will look forward to it.
     
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  12. Randydrew6

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    Will work on it today! Going to need a lot of server work on my end but I can get it done :)
     
  13. Cloudyday80

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    i'd try it but what about the people like me who are the lifetime subscribers?
     
  14. Randydrew6

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    Like I said only VIP members will be able to purchase it so lifetime subs will just be saving money :)
     
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  15. Cloudyday80

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    how many accounts would be setup doing this method whenever you get it ready to go? just one of each or what?
     
  16. kmonmoy

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    LOL... let the guy work for now :) . He just got the idea and need to work on it first.
     
  17. Boracho

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    i quit using proxies because i kept getting banned. Im also not sure if i can use multiple accounts on one pc like i used to without a VM
     
  18. Randydrew6

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    As many as you like :)


    Just finished all the PHP functions and the client sided program here is a screenshot
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  19. kmonmoy

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    When will you take my money? :p

    PS. Don't forget to give me consultation fee :D
     
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  20. Randydrew6

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    I have most of it done, I will get a test run on my end late tomorrow so should be out in maybe 2 days :)
     

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